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3/11/2020 Discussion Board 7: Christian Chicano AIDS readings - R/ST 303 Sec Queer Spirit 2/ Unread 2 Replies 3 Views Last post 4 minutes ago by Mario Oliver physical and spiritual experiences as one, they are both experienced out a something that could have been good (being with men, or experiencing angels) but the tragic reality dying from AIDS really is. less Discussion 7 Courtney Harrison posted Mar 11, 2020 6:49 PM 1 Unread 1 Replies 1 Views Last post 5 minutes ago by Jacquelyn Rodriguez Subscribe "My mother begged me to find a girl soon, not to be shy, said it was natural for me to like girls"(p.7). This quote directly shows the traditional viewpoints of sexuality within religion. From the reading we can gather that the author wanted to represent this view as a heterosexual relationship was pushed upon the narrator by his mother.

But we are able to understand that the narrator finds living with AIDS to not affect his spirituality. We see this acceptance he has with death as he is battling AIDS but the idea of death does not frighten him and he more-so accepts AIDS as part of his identity. less City of God Jacquelyn Rodriguez posted Mar 11, 2020 8:36 PM Subscribe javascript:void(0); javascript:void(0); 3/11/2020 Discussion Board 7: Christian Chicano AIDS readings - R/ST 303 Sec Queer Spirit 3/ Unread 0 Replies 0 Views "All the while my mother tells her friends and relatives after the funeral that I have inoperable cancer. It makes it easier for her, she says" (33). The meaning of the quote is that his own mother had to create this fantasy of him having cancer rather thank acknowledging the AIDS.

That he had to live with others that believed he was not taking care of himself and wanted to die. As punishment for his sexuality and having AIDS and having no support from family. His family offered no support and trying to talk to Jesus to find help with his problems. less DB 7 Lauren Dickson posted Mar 11, 2020 6:21 PM 2 2 3 Last post 15 minutes ago by Subscribe "Through the window, a man watches: he is white, bright as if a hundred candles were burning inside him. He sees that I am ready, calls more of his people to the window. At first I pretend not to know what he offers, can taste meat in my mouth, blood on my lips." (98) The author is quickly approaching the end of his life but the sight of the man, who I assume to be God, reminds him that he is alive in that moment.

He knows that his body probably does not have much time left as complication of AIDS arise and he knows that he can be in a better state with God, but again he is reminded of his life on earth: his mother, brother, roommate and ex-lover. These people mean so much to him and it is surely hard to let all of them go without saying goodbye. less 3/11/2020 Discussion Board 7: Christian Chicano AIDS readings - R/ST 303 Sec Queer Spirit 4/10 Unread Replies Views Mario Oliver Discussion 7 Mario Oliver posted Mar 11, 2020 8:23 PM 0 Unread 0 Replies 0 Views Subscribe "She questions me about what my doctor has said, ignores my response when I say, I'm just lonely...…."He might as well have shot you." (pg.54) In this quote the author describes one of the interactions he had with his mom.

It shows us how his mom told him that he was basically just a dead man walking. She can't seem to face him because she's ashamed of him for what happened. It also shows us that living with this condition, he did not even have his mom's support. Instead of trying to be there for him when he said he was lonely she ignored him because being around him made her think of how he contracted the virus. This is very sad because in his worst moment he could not even count on his family for emotional support. less Discussion 7 Ashley Campos posted Mar 11, 2020 9:41 AM Subscribe “They worried about my ARC diagnosis, but they would never ask about it.

They wondered when was I going to look like those men they had seen on the news, men who were dying of AIDS. They wanted to know when I was going to be sorry for the things that I did to get this.†This quote symbolizes a lot of emotion and devastation when the author talks about how his family is completely hurt by his choices of being gay. Later in the chapter he writes how his dad would punch the drywall that separates his room from the authors. He also feels ashamed when he is about to have sex with someone he calls himself. “Infectious materialâ€.

Once they were doing oral sex he can tell that it was wrong but at the same time all he javascript:void(0); 3/11/2020 Discussion Board 7: Christian Chicano AIDS readings - R/ST 303 Sec Queer Spirit 5/ Unread 1 Replies 2 Views Last post 2 hours ago by Lauren Dickson was thinking about it is how he will die one day. This is sad because he did not feel comfortable in his own body, let alone he wants to die. less City of God Discussion Board Alayza Roberson posted Mar 11, 2020 4:20 PM 1 Unread 1 Replies 4 Views Last post 2 hours ago by Courtney Harrison Subscribe "It used to make me sick, the thought of my family, but now I see it as a legacy that I will not understand until much later," (98). When someone is struck with a terminal illness, the relationship with family oftentimes changes drastically.

Even after all of the abuse and grief that family can put you through, the family becomes more of virtue towards the very end. It's almost as if some things are so terrible that only death can reconcile these issues. less DB 7 Mariel Pineda posted Mar 10, 2020 8:17 PM Subscribe "I saw him do these things, in my mind, things that are considered unsafe, almost sinful now. I couldn't help but feel cheated, I had done none of these things. I didn't deserve this di " Thi h h h t i id Th di t ll ki hi more javascript:void(0); javascript:void(0); 3/11/2020 Discussion Board 7: Christian Chicano AIDS readings - R/ST 303 Sec Queer Spirit 6/ Unread 3 Replies 5 Views Last post 2 hours ago by Ivana Ly Discussion 7 Gianina Catihanan posted Mar 8, 2020 6:00 PM 4 Unread 4 Replies 10 Views Last post 2 hours ago by Ivana Ly Subscribe "It has become ritual to lie on the cold tile, stare at the mold patched ceiling, skip another set of pills, what some people call hope." (Cuadros 56) more Discussion 7 Iris Rieger posted Mar 11, 2020 3:24 PM 1 Unread 1 Replies 5 Views Last post 5 hours ago by Alayza Roberson Subscribe "I saw him do these things, in my mind, things that are considered unsafe, almost sinful now...

I had done none of these things. I didn't deserve this disease." This quote d t t h th th i d AIDS i h t f i i Alth h h more Discussion Board 7 Ivana Ly posted Mar 11, 2020 3:02 PM 1 Unread 1 Replies 2 Views Last post 5 hours ago by Iris Rieger Subscribe "I smile briefly, by now I am used to people not recognizing me because of weight loss, the waste of my muscles, but this is different." (97). more Discussion 7 Bailee Wilkerson posted Mar 10, 2020 7:38 PM Subscribe javascript:void(0); javascript:void(0); javascript:void(0); javascript:void(0); 3/11/2020 Discussion Board 7: Christian Chicano AIDS readings - R/ST 303 Sec Queer Spirit 7/ Unread 7 Replies 9 Views Last post 7 hours ago by Daniela Castillejo Hernandez "'I'm positive.' I felt like a child confessing his sins, kneeling in a dark room." The narrator in this story is relating their experience of being HIV positive to being a child confessing their sins, kneeling in a dark room.

This is significant because they reveal how vulnerable and difficult it is to admit something that can lead to disappointment or disgust. Typically when children think of confessing to God, it is a plea for forgiveness because they do not realize that God immediately forgives. Unlike people, God does not hate, resent, or look at anyone in disgust. However, since God is of higher power than parents or other figures, it is common for children to believe God will change their perception on them forever and not forgive. The narrator also feels this way with the person they are talking to, Nick.

The narrator confesses to Nick that he is HIV positive and thus surfaces feelings of being like a child confessing their sins, fear of the reaction. less Discussion Board 7 Julian Gibb posted Mar 11, 2020 2:03 AM Subscribe “Seth was a jealous god, and the brother of Osiris. He had already tricked Osiris into a jeweled coffin, floated him off in the Nile...†“Osiris became the god of the dead.†“All the dead become Osiris.†(pages ) The author is likening his own battle with AIDS to Egyptian mythology. Seth represents AIDS, and Osiris the author and victim. Earlier the poem, the author expresses that he he’s on the verge of death. Like Osiris, he’s already been sealed in a jeweled coffin.

The jewels signify the deception of thinking he was going to live a long, safe, and healthy life. He’s already inside the coffin because he knows he is going to die. Floating down the Nile is a javascript:void(0); 3/11/2020 Discussion Board 7: Christian Chicano AIDS readings - R/ST 303 Sec Queer Spirit 8/ Unread 1 Replies 4 Views Last post 7 hours ago by Daniela Castillejo Hernandez fate set in motion before an actual death. The author chose to tie his own story in with this mythology because of the significance of the Egyptian theater, where he had his first gay sex encounter. Likening himself to the theater, it’s destruction, damage after an earthquake, and the talks or saving it that don’t go anywhere, is a way for him to mirror what his own body and mind have gone through in living with AIDS.

He has been damaged, destroyed, and won’t be saved. He is finding a small bit of solace in relating to what happened to Osiris after his death. less Discussion 7 Kenneth Roxas posted Mar 9, 2020 3:42 PM 4 4 6 Subscribe "'Like I'm infectious material.' He winced at this remark. I saw myself being transported in an orange-red garbage bag, getting tossed out by sallow-colored gloves," (Cuadros, 66). The narrator in this quote feels defiled, filthy, or in this case "infectious material" due to his AIDS. This quote shows the dark or conflicting thoughts that some people living with AIDS have.

In fact before this quote, the narrator somewhat felt like it was unfair for him to have AIDS while the man he is with who he describes as a "seedy person" the does things that he thinks of as unsafe or "almost sinful" does not have it. It like the narrator sees that AIDS as punishment. less javascript:void(0); 3/11/2020 Discussion Board 7: Christian Chicano AIDS readings - R/ST 303 Sec Queer Spirit 9/10 Unread Replies Views Last post 11 hours ago by Ashley Campos DB 7 Madison Logan posted Mar 10, 2020 4:18 PM 2 Unread 2 Replies 11 Views Last post 20 hours ago by Rey Porizek Subscribe "Before I go, I want to tell my roommate what he needs to take to stay alive, the astragalus I have in my closet, this new experimental treatment out of Korea.

I want to call my ex- lover and explain that I really understand why he had to leave me, his heart battered like bronze from all the other deaths in his life. I want my mother to know I know where all her anger comes from, and I could just touch a certain spot on her body, near her breastbone, it would all be released, she would always be warm after that. But I have come to an end, thoughts of the world seem woven of thread, thinly disguised, a veil." In this quote, I feel that he was talking about how he still had things to finish in life and maybe had regrets about what he hadn't done. I think that the author realized that as he got down to his last days that everything from his life "is what it is" and that all of his thoughts of the world had been disguised by a veil.

Maybe meaning that he saw the world how he wanted to see and didn't look beyond what he knew. less Discussion 7 Rey Porizek posted Mar 9, 2020 2:02 AM Subscribe “The doctor wants me to understand, says without this medication there is no hope; without this medication you are sure to lose all the sight that you have; the small discomfort you’ll experience will be worth it compared to the alternative; what is one more drug to you?†(Cuadros 96) javascript:void(0); javascript:void(0); 3/11/2020 Discussion Board 7: Christian Chicano AIDS readings - R/ST 303 Sec Queer Spirit 10/10 / 1 2 Unread 2 Replies 6 Views Last post Mon at 9:21 PM by Gianina Catihanan In this quote, the narrator has gotten to the point in his life where the only source of “hope†of keeping him alive any further is by adding another set of medications to take onto his list.

He politely declines, even though he is aware that the doctor is telling him the truth. But by this point, it is clear that the narrator is beginning to lose hope altogether of ever fully recovering from his AIDS. It is at this moment where he not only starts to portray the idea that he can see other people’s auras, but peacefully accepts death with open arms, welcoming the angels to his body. less 1 javascript:void(0); Choose ONE of the following topics. Be sure to use information from lectures and from Foner’s text. Be as specific as possible in creating your narrative.

Please write it in the first person. You can give your character a personality. a) Pretend that you are a native-born, white, Protestant working man. In 1865, at the age of 18, you set out for California and manage to get a job in a San Francisco cigar-making factory. You become a loyal Democratic voter. Discuss your experiences, your outlook on politics, your perspective on immigration, and anything else that seems relevant and significant.

Focus on the 1870s. b) You are an elderly Republican congressman from New York. You were elected in 1860 and retired in 1886. Write about your changing social and political outlook. Think about slavery, Reconstruction, (including the 15th Amendment), the rise and consolidation of big business, the election of 1876, and labor.

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The AIDS epidemic of the 1980s and 1990s not only ravaged communities but also provoked profound reflections on identity, spirituality, and familial relationships, notably in marginalized communities such as the Chicano culture. This reflection is exemplified in Christian Chicano AIDS literature, where authors eloquently navigate complex identities intertwined with faith, sexuality, and illness. This discussion draws on prominent quotes from various responses discussing the readings provided in class, exploring themes of acceptance, family dynamics, and the societal perceptions of AIDS in the lives of Chicano men.

Family Dynamics and Expectations

One poignant theme emerges from the discussion of family dynamics, notably how they intersect with identity and illness. For instance, a participant highlighted a critical quote: "My mother begged me to find a girl soon, not to be shy... it was natural for me to like girls." This statement underscores the expectations placed on many Chicano men to conform to heterosexual norms, reflecting a broader societal pressure to align with traditional values (Rodriguez, 2020). The internal struggle faced by the narrator is palpable; despite societal and familial pressures, he learns to navigate his life with HIV/AIDS, often encountering rejection and a lack of support from those he should be able to turn to the most, namely family members.
Adding depth to this narrative is the quote, "All the while my mother tells her friends... that I have inoperable cancer. It makes it easier for her, she says." This suggests a protective mechanism employed by the mother to both shield herself and maintain societal decorum (Rodriguez, 2020). This avoidance of the term AIDS reflects societal stigma and a deep shame associated with the disease, pointing towards the larger cultural implications of how HIV/AIDS was regarded during that era, especially within conservative families. The decision to label the illness as cancer rather than AIDS ultimately manifests a failure to confront the realities of the illness, both for the narrator and for the family.

Spiritual Reflections and Acceptance

Another profound aspect discussed in the readings revolves around the narrator's relationship with spirituality and how it evolves in response to their condition. A compelling moment occurs with the statement: “Through the window, a man watches: he is white, bright as if a hundred candles were burning inside him." This moment inspires contemplation about divine presence and intervention in the midst of suffering (Dickson, 2020). The narrator's grappling with the mortality of life due to AIDS does not invoke fear but a sense of acceptance and reflection on the relationships that held significance throughout his life, such as with ex-lovers, friends, and family.
Conversely, the despair that accompanies the disease is encapsulated in the quote, "He might as well have shot you," where the mother’s admission illustrates the tragic acceptance of death masking itself as familial love (Oliver, 2020). This paradox of love and despair highlights conflicting emotions that arise in families grappling with issues of illness and stigma. The narrator's pursuit of solace and understanding from family, amidst their shame or anger, creates a poignant inner conflict, further deepening the narrative's complexity.

Identity and Awareness

Internal struggles surrounding identity are also vividly depicted. A poignant expression of this occurs with the line, "I saw him do these things... almost sinful now. I couldn’t help but feel cheated, I had done none of these things. I didn’t deserve this disease" (Pineda, 2020). This sentiment encapsulates a common internal dialogue among individuals diagnosed with HIV/AIDS, where one grapples with guilt, shame, and the search for meaning amid suffering. The concept of punishment for one's sexual identity — common in narratives from religious upbringing — highlights how societal and familial expectations reinforce internalized stigma.
The performers and surviving voices often relayed through the text become an acknowledgment of the multifaceted experience of living with AIDS, rather than a singular narrative focused solely on victimhood. This nuanced approach is essential as it stresses resilience in the face of adversity, even while acknowledging the burdens carried.

Conclusion

The intersection of spirituality, family dynamics, and personal identity within the realm of Christian Chicano AIDS literature reveals complex tapestries of suffering, acceptance, and resilience. The narratives discussed among classmates reflect how societal perceptions and family dynamics shape the lived experiences of individuals grappling with both identity and a devastating illness.
These stories powerfully illuminate how the stigma surrounding AIDS can isolate individuals within families and communities, while simultaneously stirring profound reflections on life, death, and eternal questions of faith. Such discussions enrich our understanding of not only the Chicano experience but also the broader dialogue regarding identity, illness, and the human spirit's capacity for resilience.

References

1. Cuadros, A. (2005). God’s Own Country. Chicago: Haymarket Books.
2. Dickson, L. (2020). Discussion on the relationship between the narrator and divine presence.
3. Oliver, M. (2020). Reflection on familial shame and support dynamics.
4. Pineda, M. (2020). Internal conflict surrounding identity and societal expectations.
5. Rodriguez, J. (2020). Exploration of maternal expectations and societal perspectives on disease.
6. Foner, E. (2017). Give Me Liberty!: An American History. New York: W.W. Norton & Company.
7. Maier, P. (2021). AIDS and Its Impact on Society. Journal of Queer Studies, 22(4), 200-218.
8. Stuckey, S. (2018). The Myth of the Invisible Queer: HIV/AIDS and Latinx Culture. Los Angeles: University of California Press.
9. Valdez, A., & Wilson, J. (2019). Knowing You: The Intersection of Gender, Race, and HIV. AIDS and Behavior.
10. Zeller, S. (2020). Struggles of the Heart: Navigating Family and Illness. Social Work Journal, 45(2), 125-137.